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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-2113</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of Finnish conductors: Sakari Oramo conducts the Mahler 4th, beginning 15 minutes on in this Sveriges Radio P2 recording:

http://sverigesradio.se/webbradio/webbradio.asp?type=broadcast&amp;Id=2263649&amp;BroadcastDate=&amp;IsBlock=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of Finnish conductors: Sakari Oramo conducts the Mahler 4th, beginning 15 minutes on in this Sveriges Radio P2 recording:</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Wieting</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Wieting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In further answer to the opening post&#039;s question, the BSO is performing Poulenc&#039;s Gloria at Tanglewood on August 27, along with Holst&#039;s The Planets. I noted the date because it falls precisely on my parents&#039; 50th wedding anniversary.  Hmmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In further answer to the opening post&#8217;s question, the BSO is performing Poulenc&#8217;s Gloria at Tanglewood on August 27, along with Holst&#8217;s The Planets. I noted the date because it falls precisely on my parents&#8217; 50th wedding anniversary.  Hmmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Harvard-Radcliffe Chorus performed the Gloria last year in Sanders Theatre, so it&#039;s still being performed. I like the piece.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1996</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WGBH RADIO BECOMES WBUR WANNABE, SENDS DEBASED VERSION OF OLD SELF OUT OF TOWN

Lest we forget. The story when new, well told here --

http://www.current.org/radio/radio0923wgbh.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WGBH RADIO BECOMES WBUR WANNABE, SENDS DEBASED VERSION OF OLD SELF OUT OF TOWN</p>
<p>Lest we forget. The story when new, well told here &#8211;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.current.org/radio/radio0923wgbh.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.current.org/radio/radio0923wgbh.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BSO then -- see Poulenc letters above -- and now: http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/03/25/another_levine_absence_takes_its_toll_on_the_bso/

A glimpse backstage during James Levine&#039;s first season -- http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2005/03/17/levines_pace_proves_hard_on_bso/

His eventual successor ... no, one is not being morbid. Surely the search is on, if only in the pondering stage ... could well be a Finn, or a Russian. There are so many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BSO then &#8212; see Poulenc letters above &#8212; and now: <a href="http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/03/25/another_levine_absence_takes_its_toll_on_the_bso/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/03/25/another_levine_absence_takes_its_toll_on_the_bso/</a></p>
<p>A glimpse backstage during James Levine&#8217;s first season &#8212; <a href="http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2005/03/17/levines_pace_proves_hard_on_bso/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2005/03/17/levines_pace_proves_hard_on_bso/</a></p>
<p>His eventual successor &#8230; no, one is not being morbid. Surely the search is on, if only in the pondering stage &#8230; could well be a Finn, or a Russian. There are so many.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1990</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding later Stravinsky and the &quot;jarringly candid&quot; review: 

Of course,  he got old and crotchety.  Doesn&#039;t nearly everybody?  And clearly,  he was no saint; maybe, even,  not a very nice person. At least he kept his anti-Semitism largely to himself,  rather than making it part of his public persona,  a la Wagner.

The essential point is the MUSICAL value of the later works by the author of the earth-shattering Le Sacre. How important or valuable are they?  Nadia Boulanger was a ferocious defender of every note that came from Stravinsky&#039;s ear and pen. I remember her going over every detail of a miniscule late piece -- was it Requiem Canticles? -- and pointing out astonishing felicities in every measure.  &quot;I maintain,&quot; she would say,  &quot;that Stravinsky is one of the great unknown composers of the 20th century.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding later Stravinsky and the &#8220;jarringly candid&#8221; review: </p>
<p>Of course,  he got old and crotchety.  Doesn&#8217;t nearly everybody?  And clearly,  he was no saint; maybe, even,  not a very nice person. At least he kept his anti-Semitism largely to himself,  rather than making it part of his public persona,  a la Wagner.</p>
<p>The essential point is the MUSICAL value of the later works by the author of the earth-shattering Le Sacre. How important or valuable are they?  Nadia Boulanger was a ferocious defender of every note that came from Stravinsky&#8217;s ear and pen. I remember her going over every detail of a miniscule late piece &#8212; was it Requiem Canticles? &#8212; and pointing out astonishing felicities in every measure.  &#8220;I maintain,&#8221; she would say,  &#8220;that Stravinsky is one of the great unknown composers of the 20th century.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lionel Salter, a musical hero -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2000/mar/06/guardianobituaries2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lionel Salter, a musical hero &#8212; <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2000/mar/06/guardianobituaries2" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2000/mar/06/guardianobituaries2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And speaking of Stravinsky ...

Below: the art of the brief, graceful, but jarringly candid review.  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/jul/09/biography.music</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of Stravinsky &#8230;</p>
<p>Below: the art of the brief, graceful, but jarringly candid review.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/jul/09/biography.music" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/jul/09/biography.music</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1985</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A related topic -- coded allusions, e.g., Bizet&#039;s &quot;Habanera&quot; in the first movement of the Shostakovich Fifth Symphony. Whereby hangs a tale. There&#039;s this woman, you see ...

How long has this common knowledge? Its veracity seems pretty well nailed down.

I myself first heard of it from Stephen Johnson on BBC Radio 3. He just happened to be speaking from Shostakovich&#039;s apartment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A related topic &#8212; coded allusions, e.g., Bizet&#8217;s &#8220;Habanera&#8221; in the first movement of the Shostakovich Fifth Symphony. Whereby hangs a tale. There&#8217;s this woman, you see &#8230;</p>
<p>How long has this common knowledge? Its veracity seems pretty well nailed down.</p>
<p>I myself first heard of it from Stephen Johnson on BBC Radio 3. He just happened to be speaking from Shostakovich&#8217;s apartment.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Ehrlich</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Ehrlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What fun to have old friend Richard Buell back in full sail here!  The Poulenc material is fabulous.  Where are those who think (and write) like F.P. today?  More, please, Richard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What fun to have old friend Richard Buell back in full sail here!  The Poulenc material is fabulous.  Where are those who think (and write) like F.P. today?  More, please, Richard!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is especially fun is to try to figure out how many styles, or how many specific works, are quoted-parodied-burlesqued in the course of that work. Prokofiev’s Third Piano Concerto is almost hinted at in the first movement; gamelan styles at the beginning and end of that same movement; Mozart’s K. 466 and 467 Piano Concertos, barely concealed, in the second movement; _La mer_ brazenly burlesqued in the third movement.&quot;

Who is going to write the book on the topic &quot;Irony, Burlesque and Parody as Cornerstones of 20th Century Modernism:  Music and Visual Arts&quot;?  Not only do the musical languages of mid-level masters like Poulenc and Kurt Weill depend on parody and imitation:  some of the very greatest creative spirits build at least parts of their personae on mockery and ironic citation:  Stravinsky, Picasso,  who else?  You might even say that intellectualized sendups are a central,  constituent element of 20th c. hipness.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is especially fun is to try to figure out how many styles, or how many specific works, are quoted-parodied-burlesqued in the course of that work. Prokofiev’s Third Piano Concerto is almost hinted at in the first movement; gamelan styles at the beginning and end of that same movement; Mozart’s K. 466 and 467 Piano Concertos, barely concealed, in the second movement; _La mer_ brazenly burlesqued in the third movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who is going to write the book on the topic &#8220;Irony, Burlesque and Parody as Cornerstones of 20th Century Modernism:  Music and Visual Arts&#8221;?  Not only do the musical languages of mid-level masters like Poulenc and Kurt Weill depend on parody and imitation:  some of the very greatest creative spirits build at least parts of their personae on mockery and ironic citation:  Stravinsky, Picasso,  who else?  You might even say that intellectualized sendups are a central,  constituent element of 20th c. hipness&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the first. &quot;I&quot; join  him, not &quot;In&quot; join him.
Beat you to it, Bonhomme Richard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the first. &#8220;I&#8221; join  him, not &#8220;In&#8221; join him.<br />
Beat you to it, Bonhomme Richard.</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOPS. Richard is Right, of course.

So - In join him in self-correcting myself in fast-typed blogs. I need a couple more to catch up with him, tho.&#039; Keep looking.

Yeah, yeah. &quot;PROspective. But I LOVE purportedly and will change its usage before I croak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS. Richard is Right, of course.</p>
<p>So &#8211; In join him in self-correcting myself in fast-typed blogs. I need a couple more to catch up with him, tho.&#8217; Keep looking.</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah. &#8220;PROspective. But I LOVE purportedly and will change its usage before I croak.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1970</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to Comment #5 above:

What is a &quot;perspective&quot; pianist?

And how does one call out something &quot;purportedly&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to Comment #5 above:</p>
<p>What is a &#8220;perspective&#8221; pianist?</p>
<p>And how does one call out something &#8220;purportedly&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1966</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re N.B.,  I have quite a few recollections of her _bons mots_. Have just recently started to write them down as they resurface in my memory :-)

Requiems. Satie, Fauré, and Poulenc were all French Catholics,  so even when they engage in leg-pulling and various _audaces_  they remain within the fold.  Lennie,  on the other hand....I quote, from memory, Randall Thompson regarding L.B.:

&quot;Naughty boy. NAUGHTY boy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re N.B.,  I have quite a few recollections of her _bons mots_. Have just recently started to write them down as they resurface in my memory :-)</p>
<p>Requiems. Satie, Fauré, and Poulenc were all French Catholics,  so even when they engage in leg-pulling and various _audaces_  they remain within the fold.  Lennie,  on the other hand&#8230;.I quote, from memory, Randall Thompson regarding L.B.:</p>
<p>&#8220;Naughty boy. NAUGHTY boy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>Bettina A. Norton, executive editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that you have brought up Nadia Boulanger and her sometimes (in)famous comments, I once heard a story about a master class interview she was holding with a perspective pianist. The young woman fainted dead away after she played, and Boulanger, purportedly called out &quot;Prochain!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you have brought up Nadia Boulanger and her sometimes (in)famous comments, I once heard a story about a master class interview she was holding with a perspective pianist. The young woman fainted dead away after she played, and Boulanger, purportedly called out &#8220;Prochain!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark DeVoto</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1962</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark DeVoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the premiere of Poulenc&#039;s _Gloria_ in 1960 or 1961 with the BSO; I disliked the piece then, and have disliked it every time I&#039;ve heard it since.  It strikes me as vulgar, although if it&#039;s parodistic, deliberately aping a &quot;Sacré Coeur&quot; style, I can accept that.  Maybe the Duruflé Requiem (1947) is supposed to be an exemplar of that style, but I think it&#039;s a lovely piece; Fauré&#039;s Requiem, which Randall Thompson called &quot;La cocotte de la Madeleine,&quot; is a noble and pure testament but somehow I don&#039;t think Poulenc was reaching back that far.  (None of these pieces is imaginably as vulgar as Bernstein&#039;s _Mass_, which is also the craziest example of the Mass genre, much weirder than Satie&#039;s _Messe des pauvres_ which despite weirdness is a beautiful work.)

I&#039;m delighted with what Poulenc writes about his own Concerto for two pianos and orchestra, which I think is a great masterpiece -- I have performed it myself.  What is especially fun is to try to figure out how many styles, or how many specific works, are quoted-parodied-burlesqued in the course of that work.  Prokofiev&#039;s Third Piano Concerto is almost hinted at in the first movement; gamelan styles at the beginning and end of that same movement; Mozart&#039;s K. 466 and 467 Piano Concertos, barely concealed, in the second movement; _La mer_ brazenly burlesqued in the third movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the premiere of Poulenc&#8217;s _Gloria_ in 1960 or 1961 with the BSO; I disliked the piece then, and have disliked it every time I&#8217;ve heard it since.  It strikes me as vulgar, although if it&#8217;s parodistic, deliberately aping a &#8220;Sacré Coeur&#8221; style, I can accept that.  Maybe the Duruflé Requiem (1947) is supposed to be an exemplar of that style, but I think it&#8217;s a lovely piece; Fauré&#8217;s Requiem, which Randall Thompson called &#8220;La cocotte de la Madeleine,&#8221; is a noble and pure testament but somehow I don&#8217;t think Poulenc was reaching back that far.  (None of these pieces is imaginably as vulgar as Bernstein&#8217;s _Mass_, which is also the craziest example of the Mass genre, much weirder than Satie&#8217;s _Messe des pauvres_ which despite weirdness is a beautiful work.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m delighted with what Poulenc writes about his own Concerto for two pianos and orchestra, which I think is a great masterpiece &#8212; I have performed it myself.  What is especially fun is to try to figure out how many styles, or how many specific works, are quoted-parodied-burlesqued in the course of that work.  Prokofiev&#8217;s Third Piano Concerto is almost hinted at in the first movement; gamelan styles at the beginning and end of that same movement; Mozart&#8217;s K. 466 and 467 Piano Concertos, barely concealed, in the second movement; _La mer_ brazenly burlesqued in the third movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
		<link>http://classical-scene.com/2010/03/22/etcetera/comment-page-1/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Richard,  I think you might want to know :-)  The Poulenc &quot;Gloria,&quot; as I recall it from umpty-eight years ago, is, at least in places, a bad-boy nose-thumb at what you cite as the &quot;Sacré Coeur&quot; style and what the French call the &quot;Saint Sulpice&quot; style.   The &quot;Laudamus Te,&quot; if my memory is accurate,  is written in an almost-music-hall idiom.  Maybe that is what Poulenc meant by the Maurice Chevalier allusion.  Of course,  bad boys return to the Mother Church at the end,  but meanwhile they have fun.

I can see him in imagination, rolling his eyes at the worthy,  provincial Boston choirmaster. Hmm, I think I&#039;d like to hear the piece again.

Nadia Boulanger to me, ca. 1966, re Poulenc:  &quot;Des fois,  en écoutant sa musique, j&#039;ai envie de lui dire,  &#039;mon cher François,  aujourd&#039;hui vous êtes allé un peu trop loin.&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Richard,  I think you might want to know :-)  The Poulenc &#8220;Gloria,&#8221; as I recall it from umpty-eight years ago, is, at least in places, a bad-boy nose-thumb at what you cite as the &#8220;Sacré Coeur&#8221; style and what the French call the &#8220;Saint Sulpice&#8221; style.   The &#8220;Laudamus Te,&#8221; if my memory is accurate,  is written in an almost-music-hall idiom.  Maybe that is what Poulenc meant by the Maurice Chevalier allusion.  Of course,  bad boys return to the Mother Church at the end,  but meanwhile they have fun.</p>
<p>I can see him in imagination, rolling his eyes at the worthy,  provincial Boston choirmaster. Hmm, I think I&#8217;d like to hear the piece again.</p>
<p>Nadia Boulanger to me, ca. 1966, re Poulenc:  &#8220;Des fois,  en écoutant sa musique, j&#8217;ai envie de lui dire,  &#8216;mon cher François,  aujourd&#8217;hui vous êtes allé un peu trop loin.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Buell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Buell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I want to know! Robin Holloway -- &quot;On Music: Essays and Diversions 1963-2003&quot; (UK: Continuum, 2003) -- puts his finger on something important:

&quot;There&#039;s a particular sickly-religious subdepartment of French Catholicism -- the &#039;Sacre Coeur style&#039; -- which can sully even the best composers, believers or no, when they turn in its direction: Franck, the Debussy of &#039;Le martyre&#039;, Messiaen. And in its name, anything goes.&quot;

&quot;My own love for Poulenc,&quot; he writes earlier, &quot;is almost wholly confined to smaller pieces, piano and chamber music and above all songs. Small only in the sense of scale and forces; but the complete appropriateness of talent to medium and material, the perfect marriage of style and idea (to coin a phrase), give this body of work a high place in the music of mid-century.  Within it he is virtually infallible.

&quot;The sureness of touch extends to some larger pieces, especially those involving the stage. &#039;Les biches&#039; and &#039;Les mamelles de Teresias&#039; are, in their different ways, triumphs of outrageous stylisation.&quot;

&#039;Les biches&#039;! Does anyone else remember the old Decca/London ffrr LP with Roger Desormiere and the Paris Conservatory Orchestra? Ensembles nowadays simply don&#039;t/can&#039;t/won&#039;t come up with such in-the-style, ripely individualistic sonorities. And to our loss. They&#039;re like a vanished dialect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I want to know! Robin Holloway &#8212; &#8220;On Music: Essays and Diversions 1963-2003&#8243; (UK: Continuum, 2003) &#8212; puts his finger on something important:</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a particular sickly-religious subdepartment of French Catholicism &#8212; the &#8216;Sacre Coeur style&#8217; &#8212; which can sully even the best composers, believers or no, when they turn in its direction: Franck, the Debussy of &#8216;Le martyre&#8217;, Messiaen. And in its name, anything goes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My own love for Poulenc,&#8221; he writes earlier, &#8220;is almost wholly confined to smaller pieces, piano and chamber music and above all songs. Small only in the sense of scale and forces; but the complete appropriateness of talent to medium and material, the perfect marriage of style and idea (to coin a phrase), give this body of work a high place in the music of mid-century.  Within it he is virtually infallible.</p>
<p>&#8220;The sureness of touch extends to some larger pieces, especially those involving the stage. &#8216;Les biches&#8217; and &#8216;Les mamelles de Teresias&#8217; are, in their different ways, triumphs of outrageous stylisation.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Les biches&#8217;! Does anyone else remember the old Decca/London ffrr LP with Roger Desormiere and the Paris Conservatory Orchestra? Ensembles nowadays simply don&#8217;t/can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t come up with such in-the-style, ripely individualistic sonorities. And to our loss. They&#8217;re like a vanished dialect.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the early 60&#039;s the success of the Poulenc &quot;Gloria&quot; with Munch and the BSO inspired a number of amateur and semi-professional performances of that work in the Boston area.  I remember hearing one such at Sanders Theater. Richard,  do you know if the piece has legs?  Is it still getting sung and played?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early 60&#8242;s the success of the Poulenc &#8220;Gloria&#8221; with Munch and the BSO inspired a number of amateur and semi-professional performances of that work in the Boston area.  I remember hearing one such at Sanders Theater. Richard,  do you know if the piece has legs?  Is it still getting sung and played?</p>
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